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		<title>By: David Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congress honors those that serve?

Shouldn’t U.S. Service Personnel and Veterans get back those Constitutional Rights that they die for and convicted rapists and murderers keep?

Convicted rapists and murderers are given protection from human experiments by the U.S. Constitution’s Bill of Rights, Amendment Eight.  In 1992 the U.S. Senate signed and ratified the United Nation, International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR).[3]  Its 1994 Index, “... Article 7 - Freedom from Torture, or Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment.” notes that, “Written policy and practice prohibit the use of” [prison] “inmates for medical.....experiments.”!  Nineteen (19) times cited are the U.S. Constitution plus its Eighth Amendment’s no cruel and unusual punishment.

“The Feres Doctrine should not be applied for military personnel who are harmed by inappropriate human experimentation when informed consent has not been given.”  Then, “During the last 50 years, hundreds of thousands of military personnel” were subjected to “experiments that were designed to harm”, i.e., the 1994 U.S. Senate Report’s biological and chemical agents, radiation exposure, hallucinogenic and investigational drugs, experimental vaccines and behavior modification projects.[5]  In 2011 still ignored is this and their also noted past and present, &quot;III. Findings and conclusions&quot;, &quot;K. DOD and DVA have repeatedly failed to provide information and medical followup to those who participate in military research...&quot; and &quot;N. Participation in military research is rarely included in military medical records, making it impossible to support a veteran’s claim for service-connected disabilities from military research.&quot;  This is the withheld needed for diagnosis and treatment but experiment identifying evidence.  Underlying this Senate Report is the General Accounting Office (GAO) Sept. 1994 U.S. House Report, “Human Experimentation Overview on Cold War Era Programs”![4]

In the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1950 Feres case a death due to a 1947 Army barracks fire was determined to be an “incident to service”.[1]  In the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1987 STANLEY a DOD 1958 “to harm”  drug experiment is swept under the same cover of &quot;injuries that `arise out of or are in the course of activity incident to service.”[2]   FIFTY (50) TIMES it cites the Feres Doctrine.  Not once mentioned is the U.S. Constitution’s Bill of Rights, Amendment Eight!

In 2005 some in Congress made an attempt to get the biological and chemical  portion of this withheld needed for treatment evidence, e.g., H.R. 4259 the “Veterans’ Right to Know Commission.”  It died!  It is now a from 1944, 67 years of U.S. Congressional talk with no Feres Doctrine [1] and its STANLEY [2] “to harm” correction.  During the 1994 reported past, hundreds of thousands of the &quot;to harm&quot; service records were destroyed in a 1973 National Personnel Records Center (NPRC) fire.  Then Congress’s 1974 Privacy Act censored experiment verifying witnesses from any surviving and future records!   Overlooked by many in Congress is their Oath of Office to defend the U.S. Constitution, our “Pledge of Allegiance” “with liberty and justice for all&quot;, their U.S. Constitution Eighth Amendment protection of convicted rapists and murderers [3] with the U.S. Supreme Court’s ignored, carved in stone over its entrance, “EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW”!

As in the GAO and U.S. Senate’s reported past, these “military research” [5] “incident to service” [1] activities are conducted under the ongoing secrecy cover of our ‘national interests’, e.g., WWII, Cold War, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War, Iraq and Afghanistan.  Do not the U.S. Senate’s stated Department of Defense (DOD) “EXPERIMENTS THAT WERE DESIGNED TO HARM” [5] continue?  Please hold your members in the U.S. Congress accountable for giving back to those that serve their Constitutional Rights!

REFERENCES:

[1] 1950 - Feres v. United States, 340 U.S. 135, 146 (1950). http://supreme.justia.com/us/340/135/case.html

[2] 1987 - U.S. SUPREME COURT, JUNE 25, 1987, U.S. V. STANLEY , 107 S. CT.. 3054 (VOLUME 483 U.S., SECTION 669, PAGES 699 TO 710). http://supreme.justia.com/us/483/669/case.html

[3] 1994 - U.S. State Dept., &quot;U.S. Report under the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights July 1994, Article 7 - Freedom from Torture, or Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment.” See “Index of “1994 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights&quot;

[4] 1994 - GAO September 28, 1994 “Human Experimentation Overview on Co1d War Era Programs” [PDF] T-NSIAD-94-266 archive.gao.gov/t2pbat2/152601.pdf

[5] 1994 - December 8, 1994 REPORT 103-97 &quot;Is Military Research Hazardous to Veterans&#039; Health? Lessons Spanning Half a Century.&quot; Hearings Before the U.S. Senate Committee on Veterans&#039; Affairs, 103rd Congress 2nd Session.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congress honors those that serve?</p>
<p>Shouldn’t U.S. Service Personnel and Veterans get back those Constitutional Rights that they die for and convicted rapists and murderers keep?</p>
<p>Convicted rapists and murderers are given protection from human experiments by the U.S. Constitution’s Bill of Rights, Amendment Eight.  In 1992 the U.S. Senate signed and ratified the United Nation, International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR).[3]  Its 1994 Index, “&#8230; Article 7 &#8211; Freedom from Torture, or Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment.” notes that, “Written policy and practice prohibit the use of” [prison] “inmates for medical&#8230;..experiments.”!  Nineteen (19) times cited are the U.S. Constitution plus its Eighth Amendment’s no cruel and unusual punishment.</p>
<p>“The Feres Doctrine should not be applied for military personnel who are harmed by inappropriate human experimentation when informed consent has not been given.”  Then, “During the last 50 years, hundreds of thousands of military personnel” were subjected to “experiments that were designed to harm”, i.e., the 1994 U.S. Senate Report’s biological and chemical agents, radiation exposure, hallucinogenic and investigational drugs, experimental vaccines and behavior modification projects.[5]  In 2011 still ignored is this and their also noted past and present, &#8220;III. Findings and conclusions&#8221;, &#8220;K. DOD and DVA have repeatedly failed to provide information and medical followup to those who participate in military research&#8230;&#8221; and &#8220;N. Participation in military research is rarely included in military medical records, making it impossible to support a veteran’s claim for service-connected disabilities from military research.&#8221;  This is the withheld needed for diagnosis and treatment but experiment identifying evidence.  Underlying this Senate Report is the General Accounting Office (GAO) Sept. 1994 U.S. House Report, “Human Experimentation Overview on Cold War Era Programs”![4]</p>
<p>In the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1950 Feres case a death due to a 1947 Army barracks fire was determined to be an “incident to service”.[1]  In the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1987 STANLEY a DOD 1958 “to harm”  drug experiment is swept under the same cover of &#8220;injuries that `arise out of or are in the course of activity incident to service.”[2]   FIFTY (50) TIMES it cites the Feres Doctrine.  Not once mentioned is the U.S. Constitution’s Bill of Rights, Amendment Eight!</p>
<p>In 2005 some in Congress made an attempt to get the biological and chemical  portion of this withheld needed for treatment evidence, e.g., H.R. 4259 the “Veterans’ Right to Know Commission.”  It died!  It is now a from 1944, 67 years of U.S. Congressional talk with no Feres Doctrine [1] and its STANLEY [2] “to harm” correction.  During the 1994 reported past, hundreds of thousands of the &#8220;to harm&#8221; service records were destroyed in a 1973 National Personnel Records Center (NPRC) fire.  Then Congress’s 1974 Privacy Act censored experiment verifying witnesses from any surviving and future records!   Overlooked by many in Congress is their Oath of Office to defend the U.S. Constitution, our “Pledge of Allegiance” “with liberty and justice for all&#8221;, their U.S. Constitution Eighth Amendment protection of convicted rapists and murderers [3] with the U.S. Supreme Court’s ignored, carved in stone over its entrance, “EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW”!</p>
<p>As in the GAO and U.S. Senate’s reported past, these “military research” [5] “incident to service” [1] activities are conducted under the ongoing secrecy cover of our ‘national interests’, e.g., WWII, Cold War, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War, Iraq and Afghanistan.  Do not the U.S. Senate’s stated Department of Defense (DOD) “EXPERIMENTS THAT WERE DESIGNED TO HARM” [5] continue?  Please hold your members in the U.S. Congress accountable for giving back to those that serve their Constitutional Rights!</p>
<p>REFERENCES:</p>
<p>[1] 1950 &#8211; Feres v. United States, 340 U.S. 135, 146 (1950). <a href="http://supreme.justia.com/us/340/135/case.html" rel="nofollow">http://supreme.justia.com/us/340/135/case.html</a></p>
<p>[2] 1987 &#8211; U.S. SUPREME COURT, JUNE 25, 1987, U.S. V. STANLEY , 107 S. CT.. 3054 (VOLUME 483 U.S., SECTION 669, PAGES 699 TO 710). <a href="http://supreme.justia.com/us/483/669/case.html" rel="nofollow">http://supreme.justia.com/us/483/669/case.html</a></p>
<p>[3] 1994 &#8211; U.S. State Dept., &#8220;U.S. Report under the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights July 1994, Article 7 &#8211; Freedom from Torture, or Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment.” See “Index of “1994 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights&#8221;</p>
<p>[4] 1994 &#8211; GAO September 28, 1994 “Human Experimentation Overview on Co1d War Era Programs” [PDF] T-NSIAD-94-266 archive.gao.gov/t2pbat2/152601.pdf</p>
<p>[5] 1994 &#8211; December 8, 1994 REPORT 103-97 &#8220;Is Military Research Hazardous to Veterans&#8217; Health? Lessons Spanning Half a Century.&#8221; Hearings Before the U.S. Senate Committee on Veterans&#8217; Affairs, 103rd Congress 2nd Session.</p>
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		<title>By: RAGO</title>
		<link>http://dodgeretort.com/general/how-to-fix-congress/comment-page-1#comment-642</link>
		<dc:creator>RAGO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, Thanks for posting this guest commentary.  I had read this in the past and totally agree that Congress should &quot;eat it&#039;s own dog food.&quot; Since that what they are concocting for the rest of us, they should try digesting it themselves.

In the high tech business it always drives me crazy when companies I work for ask me to sell a product--but don&#039;t use it themselves. The most successfule ventures I have worked at utilized their own products for themselves and ultimately this influenced our decisions.  Why shouldn&#039;t the govt. process be the same?

As far as not paying our taxes--well that&#039;s a longshot and we all know it. So, we have to find a better way to force this issue.  If I can think of one I&#039;ll let you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, Thanks for posting this guest commentary.  I had read this in the past and totally agree that Congress should &#8220;eat it&#8217;s own dog food.&#8221; Since that what they are concocting for the rest of us, they should try digesting it themselves.</p>
<p>In the high tech business it always drives me crazy when companies I work for ask me to sell a product&#8211;but don&#8217;t use it themselves. The most successfule ventures I have worked at utilized their own products for themselves and ultimately this influenced our decisions.  Why shouldn&#8217;t the govt. process be the same?</p>
<p>As far as not paying our taxes&#8211;well that&#8217;s a longshot and we all know it. So, we have to find a better way to force this issue.  If I can think of one I&#8217;ll let you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like them but, they&#039;d require a constitutional amendment.  Great points though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like them but, they&#8217;d require a constitutional amendment.  Great points though.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://dodgeretort.com/general/how-to-fix-congress/comment-page-1#comment-637</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I highly doubt members of Congress are pushing this...I&#039;d say talking points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I highly doubt members of Congress are pushing this&#8230;I&#8217;d say talking points.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this for proposed legislation or, just talking points points to rally around?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this for proposed legislation or, just talking points points to rally around?</p>
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